Venom 2: we decipher the astonishing post-credits scene

Like almost all superhero movies, “Venom 2” has a scene in the middle of its credits. And it risks surprising as much as intriguing. We take stock – BEWARE SPOILERS

WARNING – The article below contains spoilers as it returns to the post-credits scene of “Venom 2” and its implications for the future of the franchise. So please go your way if you haven’t seen Andy Serkis’ movie yet.

Even though it’s not part of the MCU, Venom 2 is a Marvel movie. So superheroes. And like almost all the opus of the genre, it is advisable to stay during the end credits, so as not to miss an additional scene.

In 2018, in the first part signed Ruben Fleischer, Eddie Brock (Tom Hardy) met Kletus Casady (Woody Harrelson), alias Carnage, future villain of the sequel. Directed by Andy Serkis, the latter proceeds differently and teases something much bigger.

WHAT IS HAPPENING ?

After getting rid of Carnage and his sidekick and great love Shriek (Naomie Harris), Eddie and Venom flee to a deserted, peaceful island. The movie ends there, and that’s where we find them, right in the middle of the credits, as they watch a telenovela. Visibly inspired by the atmosphere of the South American soap opera, the symbiote decides to make a revelation to his sidekick: “We all have a past.”

“80 billion light years from a hive of knowledge across the universes would blow up your little brain”, however, he specifies to his host before offering him “a small fraction of what we symbiotes have experienced.” The room then begins to shake, and the two characters find themselves in the same place, arranged differently while the sun is shining outside, and the television is no longer broadcasting a telenovela.


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When Spider-Man’s identity is revealed to the world …

Instead, an unmasked Spider-Man appears, as J. Jonah Jameson (JK Simmons), editor of the Daily Bugle comments on the fact that a certain Peter Parker is hiding under the mask of the Man. -Spider. A revelation made at the very end of Far From Home, when Mysterio (Jake Gyllenhaal) managed to have him accused of his death.

And Venom seems to know the character played by Tom Holland, as indicated by his “This guy” as he licks the screen with his giant tongue. A man in a towel then comes out of the bathroom, but this is very secondary in this post-credits scene, which ends thus.

WHAT DOES IT MEAN ?

That Tom Holland’s Spider-Man and Tom Hardy’s Venom can (finally) come to blows. Because the symbiote is now part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, which was not the case when the first opus was started. If Sony does indeed have the rights to the characters linked to Spider-Man, it could not involve the latter in the films that the studio would develop on its side. And it is for this reason in particular that the action takes place in San Francisco, when the Weaver evolves in New York.

If winks are hidden in the feature film (like the Daily Bugle by J. Jonah Jameson), Andy Serkis had made it clear that Venom lived in his own world. And the magic of the multiverse makes it possible to develop characters without them meeting as well as to allow them to cross paths by bringing them together thanks to a sleight of hand, as at the end of this film. No doubt the same may be true of explaining the arrival of the X-Men in the MCU and their absence when the Avengers had to face off against Thanos.


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Venom and the Vulture (Michael Keaton) soon reunited?

While the Vulture played by Michael Keaton in Spider-Man Homecoming will visibly appear in Morbius with Jared Leto, the arrival of Venom in the Marvel Cinematic Universe ties the two sagas a little more together. And revives rumors of the Sinister Six reuniting, a group made up of Spider-Man’s fiercest enemies and whose film training has more than once failed.

HOW DID IT HAPPEN ?

If the purpose of the post-credits scene is clear, a mystery remains: how did Venom go from his universe to the MCU? Is this one of the consequences of the spell cast by Doctor Strange in Spider-Man No Way Home and which turns the multiverse upside down? A priori no.

Because the symbiote arrives when the true identity of the Spider-Man is revealed, so at the end of Far From Home. And it is a little later that Peter Parker calls upon the Master of the Mystical Arts, to make sure that the world forgets who is hiding under the mask.

Nor is it related to an upheaval caused by Thanos’ finger-snapping and the return of the missing allowed by the Avengers (where we would follow the point of view of Eddie and Venom, who would have felt like they were making a five-year jump in time). Because the reappearances take place long before the action of Far From Home.


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What if the actions of Sylvie (Sophia Di Martino) in the last episode of “Loki” were responsible?

The solution could be on the side of the small screen: in the last episode of season 1 of Loki, when Sylvie (Sophia Di Martino) kills He who Remains (Jonathan Majors) in the Citadel at the End of Time, and opens wide the doors of the multiverse, with consequences that we should discover in the films and series to come.

Another option, which would be a little more in line with the saga launched in 2018: this change of universe results from the intervention of a certain Knull. Also called the God of Symbiotes, of which he is also the creator. In comic books, he is able to manipulate time, and this allows him in particular to act on the chronology of the multiverse.


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Knull

A hypothesis all the more plausible as Knull reigns over the hive of symbiotes, a term that Venom cites before trying to give Eddie a glimpse of his past. Could it be to prevent this that his God intervened and moved him to another universe? As a result, he would place himself as a key character in the third solo film, if it were to see the light of day.

Until we find out more, can we imagine Venom appearing in Spider-Man No Way Home, even briefly? And why does the symbiote seem to know Spider-Man when they see him onscreen? Is it related to the Sam Raimi trilogy, thanks to which he made his big screen debut? Lots of questions, hoping for answers on December 15th.

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